While often derided as highly unfashionable, minivans really are the Swiss Army knife of vehicles. They’re people haulers, cargo carriers, mobile campsites, and can even improvise as work vehicles for when a utility van (the Leatherman of vehicles) is unavailable. Minivans also drive more like cars than the brutes occupying the SUV and pickup segment, making them easier for some drivers to live with.
With vans having enjoyed a cultural renaissance during the 1970s, minivans hit the ground running in the mid-1980s and continued to swell in popularity until the millennium. By then, North Americans were buying an estimated 1.5 million minivans a year. But that’s also where society decided to apply the brakes. Sport utility vehicles and crossovers have effectively supplanted the van as the default family conveyance — though recent sales figures have suggested those dying flames are now being rekindled.
According to a report from The Wall Street Journal, minivans are enjoying a comeback that may foreshadow something bigger. It even goes so far as to suggest that the body style is poised for a serious comeback. While that may be a little optimistic at this juncture, there is some supportive data that they’re making some headway.
Some of this was anecdotal. The outlet noted that Kim Kardashian purchased a custom $400,000 Maybach minivan for a television program and that there’s been an increase in pro-van groups on social media. We’ve also spent the last several years seeing van culture redefined online (#VanLife) with young adults attempting to frame the body type as a way to escape the trappings of a mundane existence. They’re showcasing vans as adventure vehicles. However, the preferred options are often larger utility models that have been converted into a mobile living unit.
Harder evidence of the culture evolving was provided thanks to some numerical data. The Wall Street Journal suggested most of the online groups were growing their userbase despite Americans using social media less often. Sales data also seemed to support minivans’ return to grace.
The average price of minivans as a category was up 43 percent nationally in the first quarter of 2022 — though that was staged against the same period in 2017 because the last few years have been kind of insane. This represents the single largest percentage gain of any vehicle category during a period where just about everything has gotten substantially more expensive. Meanwhile, North America’s preferred minivan — the Toyota Sienna — saw its U.S. deliveries surge from a paltry 42,885 units in 2020 to a whopping 107,990 in 2021. Again, the last few years have been outliers due to the pandemic. But they’ve also helped to reshape the industry in strange and interesting ways.
Toyota says sales of its Sienna — the nation’s bestselling minivan in 2021, according to Edmunds — more than doubled last year from 2020.
Doug Eroh, president of Longo Toyota in El Monte, Calif., says the dealership has stopped taking Sienna orders, with a wait list of 1,500 hopeful buyers he says will likely take more than a year to satisfy.
But not all minivans have seen similar bumps in volume. The Honda Odyssey saw sales decline by 9 percent in 2021, despite the model owning nearly a quarter of the entire segment. Still, minivan sales were up by 16 percent (year over year) as a whole. Meanwhile, commercial vans (e.g. Ford Transit, Mercedes-Benz Metris) saw an 8 percent drop against 2020, with Ram ProMaster (often viewed as the bargain option) variants being one of the only models to see a meaningful increase in sales volume.
My take? People simply cannot afford to be as choosy anymore. It’s the same reason you’re seeing fewer sporting vehicles targeting middle-class consumers. Baby boomers are aging out and the younger generations simply don’t have the same purchasing power, so they’re opting back into affordable alternatives (e.g. motorcycles) for recreation and viewing automobiles in terms of how many boxes they can check. Minivans are ideal here a jack of all trades, even if they don’t mark any singular category with the same gusto as a more-focused vehicle might.
But it’s honestly still difficult to see a future where they suddenly supplant crossovers as North America’s dominant form of transportation. As a former minivan owner and lifelong advocate, I’ll be the first one to blindly suggest it’s the superior platform in most instances. However, most families can make do without one, especially if they’re on the smaller side and do-it-yourself projects aren’t part of anybody’s weekly routine. Minivans have also had a few historic blind spots (e.g. NVH) that the industry has addressed without solving the problem for the entire segment due to the way the vehicles are designed.
Despite vans seemingly having gained some ground of late, these victories have still left them with an incredibly small share of the overall market. For 2021, they only managed to outsell large sedans — another wonderful segment that’s been almost completely abandoned by the industry — resulting in their holding just a total U.S. market share of just 4.5 percent. While that has come at the expense of utility vans, there’s some cautious optimism that minivans might be poised for a resurgence in popularity. Though manufacturers will ultimately need to start producing and marketing them in earnest and just hope it coincides with consumer tastes if we’re expecting to see them on the road in truly great numbers.
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Cool or uncool I could care less. My wife’s Odyssey is our first van and as long as some element of practicality is needed I wouldn’t want to be without one. The best everyday advantage is having the sliding doors when parked in the garage with the other vehicle. We wouldn’t go back to a crossover, but I’d take a wagon for sure.
You would be a resale to a dealer, but there must be first timers in that volume increase. Maybe it’s new families, but I’m guessing some people who need/want a new vehicle are choosing minivans because that’s the only ones left on the lot. The scarcity and rising price of new and used cars just might be working in minvans’ favor.
Maybe with a dealer shortage of suvs and crossovers people will rediscover minivans and decide they better meet their needs.
I’ve loved the minivans we’ve owned.
The only reason I’m not driving one now is that I require a 6000lb towing capacity in order to safely carry my travel trailer.
Most minivans towing capacities max out at 3500lbs, which just isn’t enough towing capacity for the Midwestern Dad duty cycle.
I’m on my second Odyssey and I love it, it’s an extremely versatile vehicle and as long as I’m showing dogs I’ll keep driving it; lots of room for the dog and related equipment. The Ody rides and handles well and has been extremely reliable.
I started out doing medieval/fantasy reenactment with a Dodge Caravan C/V. When simple reenactment turned into full-blown 17th century sutlering, I switched over to a line of four small pickups, mainly because I had a pull a trailer carrying a three-tent store setup. And a two motorcycle trailer for vintage motorcycle shows. Once I sold off the sutlery, and pretty much all the motorcycle collection, it was back to a minivan. And I’m much happier there.
A long as your not: 1. Hauling a trailer. 2. Hauling dirt. A minivan beats a pickup truck hands down.
I respect a good sutler.
Or hauling a motorcycle….. or a snowblower or lawn mover. Or outboard engines… or other engines and other machinery and equipment in general…. Or gunsafes…. or steel targets… or firewood and oily chainsaws.. Or anything else big and hard and oily and dirty and heavy…
If you don’t do that, minivans are generally much more suitable.
are you kidding? I haul lawnmowers and snowblowers and oily chainsaws and all sorts of things in my…very new Pacifica Hybrid Pinnacle.
It’s a very nice car. It’s also a vehicle to be used. Throw down something to cover the floor, and all is well.
Maybe you should do a review on your Pacifica Hybrid.
I have to agree with @stuki.
Vans or anything enclosed are not a good place to transport anything containing volatiles or unpleasantly aromatic items. I had a Safari van for a while. The kids dirt-bike would leak gasoline. Any gas powered item would experience some sort of evaporation. Not good in an enclosed space.
If I took a load of garbage to the dump even though it was bagged, the van would take on that smell.
There’s a reason why Orkin uses pickups with canopies. The driver is separated from the cargo.
I suppose my lawmowers and snowblowers and deadfall logs and chainsaws and splitters are bigger than yours….. :) Maybe not the chainsaws. But while I’ve carried those in CUVs and even cars; it’s a lot easier to clean up a pickup bed afterwards.
Aside from “infinite roof height” and ability to hang stuff over the sides: open beds also enables mounting a crane to lift heavy stuff into an open bed bed. Or a liftgate. Without such aids, getting heavy stuff in and out, is often not all that easy. And cargotrack etc., are much easier to install in mostly flat bedwalls.
That being said, with America becoming more and more urban/suburban, a MidVan, like the “European pickup” the VW Transporter, would make more sense for most people. Those things have sufficient load area length and headroom to fit a fair share of bikes (with windshields and mirrors removed). While still remaining low enough to fit into pretty much every garage in America, unlike the likes of Transits and Sprinters. And having a reliable, lockable cover, is very often nice.
Stelantis dropped the Dodge Caravan last year, but still make the Chrysler Pacifica Minivan and brought back the Voyager name.
The only other minivans in America are made by Toyota, Honda & Kia. The Honda van may be discontinued due to slow sales
Of course the Toyota van is more reliable then Chrysler’s and both are offered in Hybrid
Buick makes a minivan in China, but unfortunately not offered in America
America favors crossovers/SUVs and that’s what manufactures are focusing on making discontinuing sedans and minivans.
Minivans have an advantage over SUVs in that they are car based, offer allot of room with 3 row seating for 8 people
“Of course the Toyota van is more reliable then Chrysler’s” That tired old trope again. Sorry dude, can’t say that anymore.
Please show me the study which puts long term Chrysler quality above Toyota.
He didn’t say ‘quality’, he said reliable. The Chrysler/FCA/Stellantis models are cheaper to buy and cheaper to fix. Toyotas may last longer with fewer repairs initially, but parts are expensive, and major repairs unlikely to be made on high mileage vehicles. Over the long haul, the C/F/S models will last as long, and be cheaper, due to the lower initial price and cost of parts.
I’m almost ready to call Toyota overrated and FCA underrated when it comes to quality.
Toyota is good but definitely overrated. Their fanboys are *ridiculous* they act like Toyota/Lexus products are miraculous perpetual-motion machines while every other vehicle has the quality of a used Maserati Biturbo.
That said, I think FCA is about correctly rated for quality.
“Their fanboys are *ridiculous* they act like Toyota/Lexus products are miraculous perpetual-motion machines while every other vehicle has the quality of a used Maserati Biturbo.”
I’ve owned 2. One for 11 years/197K miles. I’ve done plenty of repairs on them. If I thought they were all that, wouldn’t be 2 Chevy’s parked in my garage right now. Good solid vehicles but they have their issues just like anything else. Only Toyota i’d consider buying right now is an Avalon.
Toyota hybrids tend to be their most reliable models, although it’s still early days for the new Highlander/Sienna powertrain.
The Pacifica Hybrid has an objectively bad reliability record. The gas version is better.
I would also say that the rental Pacificas I’ve had suggest that the interior won’t hold up great over time. One of the most endearing things about my Highlander is just how well the interior has stood up to abuse.
davinp: “The Honda van may be discontinued due to slow sales”
LOL, no. They sell 80-100k a year. It’s not going anywhere.
Isn’t every CUV a Minivan in hiding?
That’s basically my take on it.
I see any transverse-engine’d unibody CUV in the midsize segment as cousin to the mini-van if it has 2 rows, and a compromise on functionality for vanity/style (in comparison) if it has 3 rows.
Anything similar but in the smaller segments is a hatchback (a la the 80’s and 90’s) with platform shoes. Another appeal to vanity in a lot of cases.
Shhhh, if people realize this heads will explode.
Not true. The CUV/SUV is a station wagon on high heels. The minvan is a tall wagon. The difference is subtle, but real.
Is that Honda really a minivan? See, the expressive ‘Lightning Bolt’ beltline threw me off — I didn’t realize it was a minivan! Maybe the ex-customers got confused like me. Does expressive styling sell functional vehicles? Perhaps not.
I’ve never been able to unsee a pooping dog in the current Odyssey’s shape. IMO the ugliest of the current minivans by a long way.
I dunno. The new Toyota is a bit much with the swooshes and swollen fenders. The Honda belting is jarring.
The Pacifica and Carnival are definitely better looking.
id take a “swagger wagon”. some toyota designer must like egyptian mythology with that “eye of horus”style taillights
Hideous. Hard to commit $$$$s to something that is so intentionally unattractive.
We had a dodge grand caravan from 1998 to 2006. My wife had a band and we had equipment to haul. And yet it was very carlike in driving… Not like a performance car but like a large sedan. We rented a Ford windstar minivan for two weeks on a trip to see family and it was so truck like compared to the dodge. Our 1998 dodge grand caravan was the last long wheelbase Dodge Caravan to get the three liter engine. Acceleration was adequate but it got 31 miles per gallon on the highway which was pretty good for such a large vehicle back then. I made cardboard cut outs that fit against the windows and using a regular sun shade for the windshield I was able to create a private retreat where I could go during gigs to read or sleep. I grew up in the 60s and 70s and had a good friend whose parents had a full size Chevy wagon, and this was better in every way. From moving daughters and friends two new apartments and homes, 2 keeping the grandkids for an extended time, it was the perfect vehicle. It was my first experience sitting up high in traffic that wasn’t a delivery truck or van and I liked it very much. It was big on the inside but didn’t feel large in traffic.
And shockingly, we hated the new Sienna–how it sat and drove. I had been waiting for the new platform, but in my estimation Toyota screwed it up. Others are saying the 4 cylinder, even with the hybrid, is too little for that large, heavy piece.
I was tired of 13mpg in the old Odysseys, so a year ago we got into a Pacifica Hybrid just before the automotive world went batcrap crazy. I’m very happy with that choice. Enough battery for day to day driving for my wife, and 30mpg outside of that. For 9 months out of the year, we might add some gas 3 times.
Who would have thought–after 20 years of a Honda van (and 35 years of Hondas overall), we don’t have a single one in the garage anywhere. Honda earned that lack of business the honest way: by building crap and telling the buyer “sucks to be you”.
I’ve now had a chance to drive a Highlander with the same powertrain as the new Sienna. It feels more nimble in the city than the old powertrain, because it’s capable of delivering more current to the electric motors. But above 50 mph or up steep hills the four really makes itself known. While I didn’t have a chance to take it up a mountain pass, I don’t think it would pass the “climb Parley’s Summit at 80 mph with plenty of acceleration in reserve” test that the V6 Highlander Hybrid passes with flying colors.
I know that stretch of I-80 well. I remember running up Parley’s Summit in my old ’07 Rabbit 5-cyl 5-spd like it was an anthill. A great lesson in what torque can do for you.
Have a 2015 Town & Country that I use like an enclosed truck, need to haul dirt or wood chips? they go on the utility trailer that the minivan easily tows; have even towed a Prius on a tow dolly 150 miles with no problem.
Unless you’re towing or hauling heavier stuff, you get the benefit of the raised upright seating, just like an SUV. And with gas prices going outrageous with no end in sight, they’re a heckuva lot more efficient, too!
I thought I’d seen something where the Odyssey might be hybridized like the Sienna. Hopefully the ICE portion will use the J35 V6 or at least the K20C3 2.0T in Accord tune. In my town, the Odyssey is, if not THE leading soccer-mom choice, at least in the top three family-haulers—can’t seem to swing a dead cat without hitting one or two!
Maybe if Gen Z finally has a different opinion about cars once they are old enough to be buying family cars in large numbers.
My borderline Gen X/Millennial wife looks at minivans with unmitigated horror and the same is true of most of my peers in both the young end of Gen X and the older end of Millennials. Both of those categories are all in on the idea that CUVs somehow convey a more desirable message.
I would probably own a Pacifica Hybrid today, rather than the Highlander Hybrid I actually have, if it weren’t for my wife’s strenuous objection to the very idea of a van. Whenever we rent one, she loves it, but then she absolutely balks at the thought of the other parents in her peer group actually seeing her driving one. And this is a woman who is just fine with driving a small electric hatchback.
I’ve noticed a running theme in the comments after minivan articles. It’s almost always the woman in the family who objects to the van while the man in the family sees the value in them. Not sure what that says about the two genders. I guess woman are vain and unreasonable while men are practical and care more about what works for their family an not what people think. What I also notice is in almost every case the man gives into the woman.
When I meet a hot chick (or an attractive grandmother) I usually lead off with “Hey I bet you are vain and unreasonable” because I am a practical guy and don’t care what people think.
Nothing says “I am not vain or impractical” more clearly than a butched-up pickup truck that costs $80,000, can only be garaged in an airport hangar, and uses about as much fuel as a 707. Yep, darn those impractical women…
Come now we’re at least at 747 levels of fuel economy with MPFI, this isn’t the 70s with carbonated 400 block V8s.
“Nothing says “I am not vain or impractical” more clearly than a butched-up pickup truck that costs $80,000”
But enough about the Tesla Pickup…
@FreedMike–This is your captain speaking the roads are clear and ready for takeoff.
We’re at least as vain and unreasonable, we just advertise different things. A woman’s chief – probably only – value is her fertility and a minivan tells the world that that’s already been used up. They’ll as soon do that as you or I would drive an old Hyundai with a Bernie sticker on the glass to shout to the world you’re a failure as a provider.
“A woman’s chief – probably only – value is her fertility…”
And I thought Harvey Weinstein had no access to computers in stir…
Seriously, bro, I hope you give up on dating after 50, or have a VERY understanding wife.
Similarly, the Ford Flex’s poor sales during its run could be anecdotally traced on the internet to wives horrified by its boxy design overruling all the husbands who wanted to buy one.
Funny that the boxy Flex looks like a Range Rover, and women love those for the status. If only Ford had made the Flex an AWD Lincoln and added $20 grand to the price!
Acura, Lexus, and Infiniti all need minivans.
Do that, and the tide will really shift.
Acura VDX Type S, with air ride, SH-AWD, and a turbo V6 is the answer.
Yup. I pointed out the Flex, which women hate, looks like a Range Rover, which women love. It’s all about the status. Remember the original Cadillac Seville? Women loved that because it was easier to drive than a full size Cadillac, even though it was a modified Chevy Nova.
If luxury vehicle makers start making minivans, they’ll sell with no objections from women. It’ll have the two features women like: high social status and carlike driveability.
Acura, Lexus, and Infiniti all need minivans.
Do that, and the tide will really shift.
Acura VDX Type S, with air ride, SH-AWD, and a turbo V6 is the answer.
As a near-lifelong owner of minivans, I’d buy the Acura you described.
Good news: Lexus already sells a minivan.
https://discoverlexus.com/models/lm/
Bad news: LSD use is apparently rampant in the Lexus styling department.
I drove a friend’s 2004 ( I think ) Odyssey for a weekend. It was supposed to be just for Saturday but I loved it: It was like driving my main floor around from the bay window. He had my CTS-V so it was a win-win. The Honda had Infinity wheels on it and some suspension work done to it ( he’s a mechanic ). It was a great ride.
Our 2020 Sienna is a lifesaver for our family. Traded in our trusty 2011 in late 2020 with 270,000 miles to get the last model year of the old platform/V6 engine and expect to keep this one a very long time.
You also avoided the new model’s atrocious styling. Well played!
That was a part of it for sure, I also didn’t like the limitations of the interior (no removable second row, more difficult access from the front seat to the back due to larger console).
Give it a few more years with the next generation embracing mini vans after being chauffeured around in suvs and crossovers. It might take the downsizing of mini vans to something the size that they originally were or close to that size. Make them more affordable. Compact pickups are making a come back albeit they are different than the original ones but similarly that could happen with the mini van which is not so mini anymore. It might take an all EV mini van to bring them back.
That’s the part that’s vexing to me – why is there no nidi-van? The Mazda MPV and original Nissan Quest both filled medium size market well, but obviously it wasn’t too big because they’re both gone. I’m also surprised Subaru hasn’t jumped in with an AWD medium model.
Even the original Odyssey fit that description, and I’m pretty sure Honda currently sells a similar-sized vehicle in the JDM.
I recently had a group of friends in town to attend a Garth Brooks stadium concert and I rented a Pacifica so we could all go in one vehicle. Was very impressed with the design as a people hauler. The two automatic side doors were fabulous and the dang thing was possibly the easiest vehicle to get in and out of that I’ve ever driven.
Generations raised being carted around in station wagons rejected them for minivans. Then their children rejected minivans for CUV’s. Now the CUV shuttled children are grown up with more of them seeking something novel as an alternative. When there are virtually no affordable mid-sided/large wagons left, then not the minivan which could benefit from electrification more so than any other segment?
Hopefully, this trend is real and leads to diversification in the segment. We need to see more smaller models like the old Mazda5 for different needs and even 5-seaters.
@MKizzy–Seems to be a no brainer to me especially with the move to EVs. Also like FreedMike’s suggestion of a shorter wheel base minivan. I never had children but if I would have I most likely would have had a minivan. I grew up with full size station wagons 2 being 9 passengers the other 2 6 passenger. My father used our wagons like trucks and we hauled everything from furniture to trees. Growing up I drove my parent’s desert sand 64 Impala 9 passenger wagon with a luggage rack and the classic 327 V-8 with the Rochester Quadrajet. What a great car.
Here are two ideas on how to bring minivans back:
1) Start making them in different lengths again. Contemporary minivans are huge, and not everyone needs that. A “short wheelbase” edition might also cost a bit less – a boon for families with little kids.
2) Stop making them so damned ugly (yes, I’m looking at you, Toyota and Honda).
The original Chrysler minivan was 175 inches long with a 112 inch wheelbase, and 71 inches wide. That was incredibly small in terms of length and width for the wheelbase. Something that size would sell very well – look at all the small CUVs, for people who don’t want the full size monsters.
If you want something that isn’t the size (or price) of something like a Telluride and has three rows, you’re S.O.L. The only three row compact CUV I can think of is a Tiguan, and the third row is REALLY tight.
I think something that’s in the low-$30,000 range that’s the size of a Tiguan with sliding doors and a usable third row might find a market. Make it basic family transportation. The platforms are certainly out there for such a vehicle.
Then again, a totally base Telluride with FWD is $34,000…maybe that’s the vehicle we’re thinking of, just without sliding doors.
Also consider a towing capacity that allows the minivan to tow a regular travel trailer. That’s a thing that families do, at least out here on the prairie.
Beggars can’t be choosers.
I know a number of people who have recently purchased minivans. Only one went with the intention of buying a van, my sister-in-law who traded in a pathfinder because she wanted sliding doors. The others all went looking for 3 row CUVS and were turned off by wait times and pricing for the features they wanted.
Not sure that’s going to be a long term plan. Also the starting MSRP’s are quite a bit higher then it was 2 years ago, which will probably be the biggest hinderance to long term growth.
We have had 2 Honda Pilots. A 2007 EX-L AWD that we had for 15 years/240K that was absolutely bulletproof. The transmission was going south and we planned to replace it but our Honda guru couldn’t get a reman transmission after a month and a half waiting.
We traded it on a 2017 Pilot EX-L AWD. My wife loves it. It regularly gets over 27 MPG on the Hwy with 4 people and their luggage on our way to the lake. I run about 77 MPH with the A/C on. That’s pretty solid for a 3-row 4,150 lb AWD box. The ’07 Pilot struggled to get over 20 MPG on the same trip.
On both occasions I suggested an Odyssey, but she flat refused to drive one. The only thing the Pilot does that the Ody won’t is pull our boat; the AWD Pilot can pull 5,000 lbs, the Ody is limited to around 2,500 lbs. (IIRC).
On the flipside, her brother called me one day when his Subie died and asked about what he should buy for his family hauler. They wanted something to haul the kids and all the attendant stuff for travel baseball/soccer. I told him to drive the Sienna and Odyssey and let me know what he thought. He bought a 2019 Sienna used and absolutely raves about it. He thanks me for the advise every time they come to visit from Florida to Georgia. They used to do those trips in a Prius, so low bar, but still…
We have had 8 minivans (4 Dodge and 4 GM). My wife would love to get another minivan, but one the size of the 2nd generation Dodge ‘short box’. Whenever I rent a vehicle, I request a minivan. Often in Ontario they are the most expensive vehicle per day or week in the rental car inventories/fleets.
The drawbacks with current minivans are 1) price, 2) size they are no longer ‘mini’, and 3) road clearance, which in most cases is no better than in a sedan.
No, I do not want/need AWD/4wd in a minivan. But I do want 2 rows of flat folding seats. Built in booster/child seats which both Dodge and GM offered would also be a ‘want to have’. The built in seats from Dodge were excellent, from GM downright awful.
54 Comments and no one mentions KIA? The Carnival is very interesting. Looks like a lowered version of a Tahoe/Suburban or Explorer/Expedition. Fully loaded approx $47- 48K. And Has gotten great reviews.
The KIA Sedona was on our shortlist a few years ago when we went to replace our 15-year-old Honda Odyssey. Wife decided she wanted a CUV/SUV. To this day when we go on a family trip, when I have to pack the back of our Atlas with the 3rd row in place, I curse her
Minivans aren’t very “mini” anymore… for better or worse. Unless you consider the Ford Transit Connect “Wagon”. Which I am. A buddy has one coming off lease in a few months, and even with the hyper-inflated “buyout fees” the dealer wants to add, it might be a bargain at ~$20k.
All these crossovers are minivans with swing open doors anyway. People are realizing their pilot is a more expensive odyssey with less interior room and worse mpg.
But it’s got enough ride height and magic black cladding to handle the very roughest of Starbucks drive-throughs.
My wife’s daily driver is a pilot and my sister-in-law has an odyssey. Despite the pilot having AWD instead of FWD in real world driving the MPG is identical 26 mpg highway 19-20 city. Plus the pilot can pull 5000 lbs vs 3500 for the van.
Been driving Toyota vans since the Previa came out. Loved my first Previa so much, I replaced a Camry wagon with another Previa- yes we had two Previas at one time!
Great travel machines and super reliable with excellent build quality.
Fast forward to 2017 when I special ordered an L model Sienna. Manual sliding doors, no roof rack and the new 9 speed transmission mounted to the 300hp V6.
Just yesterday we rolled in from a 5179 Mile round trip to Yellowstone, Badlands , Grand Tetons Then back home to Florida Even with the 70,75,80 mph interstate speed limits out west, my Sienna got 24mpg
Van hit 121k and I’m on my third set of Michelins and my second set of brakes. And on its second battery.
My Sienna is my practical side! My MR2 collection and FJ are my (impractical) side!
Perhaps if they hadn’t become such grotesque pigs the market would be larger.
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